Bands That Used To Be Great Before They Sold Out Part 1
80Growing up in the 1990s I was often drawn to Angst filled music and bands. Some I felt really had something to say others were just following a trend. Some bands made a career and had made a career to that point filling their music with depth and inspiration. Still at a point, often when they became much larger in mainstream music they began to show their true colors. Many rock bands began sing bouncy pop influenced ditties that the mainstream seems to want to hear these days. They had sent years creating guitar layered rock with deep lyrics but now quickly changed to create things that they themselves would have been horribly ashamed of in their younger days. So what happened to that underground credibility? It became all about the money.
The following are a list of bands which in the 1990s or early in their respective careers that I recognized as genuinely great but now are only hollow uninspired versions of what they once were. Take a look.
Goo Goo Dolls
The Goo Goo Dolls started back in the 1980s and began as a few guys and their guitars eventually progressing through the ranks of rockers to become a huge rock band by mid 90's. They had created riff upon rock riff, guitar melody after guitar melody. They truly rocked but the last album that was really Rock was "A Boy Named Goo," and it was on this album when the Goo Goo Dolls decided to change. Why? They released a song on that album called "Name." The song wasn't really a horrible song but it was a ballad and bereft of any real hard rock guitar. This soft number became a hit and the band knew it.
One their next album they seemed to waffle between rock and Pop again pushing a Ballad, "Iris," as their first single, video and again become a huge hit. Also again it wasn't a bad song but this was a rock band and we expect the ballads to be the lesser tracks on a rock album. Most of the rest of the rock tracks on this album seemed to be shined so smooth you could barely hear a truly distorted guitar in sight.
By their next album they were just releasing watered down pop "rock" and I had stopped listening. I remember seeing a new video from the Goo Goo Dolls a few years ago and seeing the guitarist rocking out on his guitar. But there was no guitar in the song it was all soft layered pianos with no hard rocking in sight. It was just ridiculous. Maybe he forgot to plug in to his amp?
Nickelback
Nickelback is a Canadian and being Canadian myself I heard a lot about them before they became big in the States and abroad. When they released their first album I was listening to "Leader of Men." They were a true rock band and I respected that. Initially when they released their album containing the song, "How You Remind Me," I liked it but in the course of hearing it over and over and over and over and over again on the radio I went from liking the song to absolutely hating it. This song became their biggest hit and went straight to front man Chad Kroeger's head.
Although they have continued to keep their music hard they have become completely full of themselves in interviews. After all Chad Kroeger coined the phrase, "8 million fans can't be wrong," because of course all rock bands only think about how many copies they sell and how much money they make right? Wrong. Kroeger also makes fun of other such acts from his home country like Matthew Good, and while they do not sell as many records as Nickelback have continued to be much more inspiring to me than Nickelback ever could be. Mark my words when I say Matthew Good's music will be remembered long after people have forgotten the name Nickelback. There's only so much the public wants to hear songs about hookers, getting drunk, and how great Nickelback is.
This article will be continued. It is rather long at this point but I have more bands to speak about. So stay tuned.
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I actually synched two Nickleback songs (3 or 4 years ago), and the music was literally the same in both. Not a single note was different. Hmm... i wish I could remember which two. lol I've honestly never been a fan of the band.
Anyway, great hub! Can't wait for #2!
I love some of the early Goo Goo Dolls stuff. As for Nickelback, I do think they got a bit full of themselves. They had some good tracks, so it's a bit of a shame how it panned out for them. No likeability factor.
I do think Nickelback was good in its early days, but so were a lot of rock bands in the 90's. This was the wave of modern rock washing over us, and a lot of artists and bands have stood the test of time. I don't think Nickelback was one of them. They just went too quickly with the trends, getting popular-- "pop"ish. The Goo Goo Dolls just realized, "Hey! This formula works, let's go with it." Nickelback, though, is like the mean girl in high school that limps around in 6 inch heels because she got told it looked good. They're a wee bit lousy now.
Awesome hub, great topic, voted up.
What exactly is selling out?
Unfortunately genuine rock music has been driven underground by the overpowering mediocre generic music that is pumped out by the commercial music industry. There's just no room for real rock bands in the mainstream these days.
I did used to think of Nickelback as mainstream grunge who were in it for the money, they were commercialized. What you say here is true, their songs are about sex, money, being so awesome, etc but I've actually grown to like their last two albums quite a lot (Here And Now & Dark Horse).
I went to a Goo Goo Dolls concert about two years ago. It was really strange, they were screaming "this is what real rock music is" and then you see all these people selling their autographs for like 30 bucks. I've been to quite a few concerts and that's the first time I've ever seen anything like that. To me, that's a perfect example of "selling out."
Cool topic. I agree about these groups even though I don't like them in general. Nickelback is just irritating to most people and with good reason, their songs are all too similar like Veronica said. And the Goo Goo Dolls had Iris and then they went for the sales. Both to me are examples of how you should do what you feel musically instead of being corralled by the mainstream market because they'll chew you up and spit you out like that.
Good Charolette: How can you talk about clicks, and cool kids, and all that about not fitting in, then go and marry the biggest fake non-celebrity that ever existed?
Totally agree; I hate it when bands sell out. I used to really like Goo Goo Dolls, but they're later stuff was unrecognisable as that of the same band. Nickelback though, were never any good anyway!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that at some point, Kurt's gonna come back and haunt the crap out of Chad Kroeger. Grrr.
Yeah, it'd be nice.
Not a fan of either of those bands. Never was. What pissed me off was when green day got big. I was listening to them WAY before they got big. Damn shame. But, still dig their music so its cool. Lol. Good hub!
so this is just part one ah...I also love the songs of the GOGO DOLLS especially IRIS this is one of their big hits back in the days...I also wonder what happened to them...thanks for sharing to us this very informative hub..
I guess that I am dating myself, I really stop following much of the popular music scene after about 1990. This is still most interesting noting and acknowledging the change in the genre.
I grew up in the early 70's, and concerts and the music were so central that I can relate to what you mean. I liked Nickleback at first, too. I agree with your take on the Goo Goo's. Rock rules!
I grew up in the 60's and I can say with all certainty that the "sell out" was alive and well then as well. The lure of the big bucks, playing to the mainstream, has affected many a good group. Good, interesting hub and I look forward to many more.
This is a great narrative; but I have never heard of these people. Keep up the good work. I may actually recognize one of your bands -- one day !!























hawkdad73 Level 3 Commenter 4 months ago
Wow! I couldn't agree more. Love the Nickleback pic...kind of fits.